Hi there, new to the forum.. looks like a fantastic piece of software here, has anyone discovered the appropriate settings for the internal GPS in the Tilt?

OK, I will give it a shot and report back..

One suggestion that I've received is to do detection with the Options->GPS->Bypass GPID checked (requires 2.5.0). You will have to make sure that no other application is using the GPS.   

However, because the shared driver may be the only way to access the GPS, this may not work, but it may at least stop it from blocking the other applications.

If other applications have stopped working, it is probably because BackCountry Navigator has altered the GPS settings. You should change them back to their factory defaults in Settings->System->GPS.

If any of you are willing to send your device to Colorado for a week or so, I can check with my associate there and see if that will help.

Well, after umpteen uninstall/reinstall cycles, BCN is now operating on the Tilt!

It will not recognize the internal GPS until you point it to COM4/9600 baud. 

Thereafter, everything seems to operate smoothly.. all the features are functioning.  Feel free to email me with questions or for additional details.

Happy navigating!

So the Bypass GPID item was not checked.

As to the control panel settings, the Tilt has a known bug/issue with the GPS.. if you access the control panel icon for the GPS and start fiddling with settings, the whole thing goes dead and won't respond to any programs.  A hard reset is the only way to get it back again.  This bug has been pretty well documented and people are working on a fix.

So all we can really do is change settings in programs that access the GPS until we find what we need.  Com4, 9600 baud!

BackCountry Navigator works just fine on WM6, and finds the x800 GPS without any extra effort, plus a whole range of others. It is HTC's implementation of the GPS Intermediate Driver that appears to be flaky. From another post, it appears that you don't need BackCountry Navigator to experience this: simply changing anything in the GPS Control Panel will cause trouble.

I have a colleague in Colorado who very much wants to fix this, but I need better information to give him.

This much I know:
1. Changing *anything* in the GPS Control Panel is bad.
2. Running detection, by default, will access the GPS Control Panel, so it will also cause problems.

This is what I don't know:
1. ByPass GPID is a flag I put into the Options. This was suggested by my GPS colleague as a way to prevent detection. But has anyone tried it?
2. Will specifying the right settings manually work? lbb8n claims that COM4/9600 baud will work, if you don't change anything in the GPS control panel. However, I am hearing right that everyone else tried that and it didn't work? I'm not sure how to report this? Who else has tried it?
3. Has anyone asked HTC why changing settings in the GPS Control panel irreversibly kills the GPS? This sounds like a pretty significant bug, and I wonder why they allow the GPS Settings to be visible in this case.
4. Is anyone willing to send their device to Colorado for a week or so? Or know where I can rent one?
5. Other applications, like the bundled ones, apparently work. What settings are the other applications using?

Nathan

Well, I did some more playing around and what I found is that since I already had the Compact Framework installed, then cancelled the new install of the CF it hosed my phone! Turns out that even before it asks you if it's OK to wipe out the previous install (of anything!) that it's already started and deleted some things, in this case it was part of the Compact Framework..

Nice, eh?

After I did the restore, then reinstalled without the CF everything seems to work ok. BCN doesn't always seems to start for whatever reason, but if I do a soft reset it'll typically start, and I do have the patch installed..

Oh, one thing I discovered is that you should never hit the Detect button when setting up your GPS, if you do that you'll screw up your GPS as mentioned above...

Aother than that BCN seems to work quite well, I haven't done any Caching yet, but have been playing around with download maps and setting things up and from what I've seen it looks pretty cool..

We'll see after this weekend!

Just thought I'd update my original posts with some better experiences!

Thanks!

-KC

I've posted a link to 2.5.2 in the downloads area. We are trying out a fix that will hopefully avoid destabilizing the HTC Kaiser, HTC Tyn II, and AT&T 8925 (Tilt).

If we can get some people to try it, we can know if the fix is real and put it in a general release.

This may have been avoided if the qualcomm driver had been implemented to standards.